The E-Sylum:  Volume 5, Number 16, April 14, 2002, Article 12

MEXICAN SUD NUMBERING SYSTEMS

  Böpple continues: "I do not think that there exists a
  published numbering or ordering system for Mexican Sud
  coins. In reply to Mr. Dunfield's  observations, I have always
  assumed the following:

  When cataloging the Guttag Collection, Mr. Adams
  encountered the difficult task of describing to the potential
  buyer Mexican Sud coins that were in small details, but
  noticeably, different from each other.  What better way to
  solve this problem than simply putting them down as 'first die,
  second die, etc.', where 'first' and 'second' are not to be
  read as some sort of a chronological or  typological order,
  but just as a listing of different dies.

  Mr. Schulman might have had the same problem. He had
  Gibbs' Mexican Sud coins, so he simply used Gibbs'
  personal system to show that coin A and coin B were of
  the same type, but actually struck from different dies.

  Therefore, I strongly assume that the description 'eighteenth
  die' does not refer to any reference known to collectors.
  It simply states that this coin is different from the seventeen
  lots before. Nevertheless, I would be more than happy to
  find out that I have erred with my assumption and that there
  indeed exist reference works for Mexican Suds..."

  Bob Lyall adds: "I do have a photocopy of the book of
  rubbings that Howard Gibbs made of his collection (for my
  own West Indian cut/countermarked collecting and researching
  purposes).  This includes some 15 pages of rubbings of all his
  SUD coins (copper and silver) but there are no reference
  numbers against the rubbings."

  Wayne Homren, Editor

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